Some monks once visited a Paribbājakārāma near Sāvatthi und were told by the Paribbājakas that they, as well as the Buddha, understood how to transcend pleasures of sense, visible forms und feelings; what then was the difference between themselves und the Buddha. The monks repeated this to the Buddha, who said that none save himself knew the satisfaction, the perils, und the deliverance which attend pleasures of sense, etc.; he then proceeded to explain the pleasures of the senses, the perils that attend them, und the deliverance there from, which is to shed all desire und appetite therefore. It is the same mit feelings. M.i.83ff.